Plot Information & Discussion Thread

7/3/2013- Amellian

[10:02:34] @ Zay : its odd because theyre interesting but

[10:02:43] @ Zay : a little stumped on how to involve them

[10:02:58] @ Zay : Turich was the same, but then they got more backstory/festivals etc/relations to ice plainers

[10:04:37] ElizaFlame13 : what's their background?

[10:04:39] @ Eldarwen : well the amellians are a weirdo tribe by nature already so that might just put people off them a bit

[10:04:48] @ Eldarwen : but yes, i was about to ask the same question hehe

[10:04:51] @ Eldarwen : how did they originate?

[10:05:11] @ Eldarwen : we do know they're running around in white robes, practically hate people and adore dragonblood coating their ground

[10:06:23] @ Zay : hmmm good question

[10:06:30] @ Zay : I don't have a set background for them, so we can make it up

[10:06:35] @ Zay : let's see...

[10:07:02] @ Eldarwen : (how did the healer nuts arise?)

[10:07:18] @ Zay : I reckon they're a religious branch of from southerners that never really "took off"

[10:07:25] @ Zay : and was ostracised for their beliefs

[10:07:35] @ Zay : *off

[10:08:09] @ Zay : probably reactionary to the rise of dragon elitism of the guardian-worshiping kind

[10:08:15] @ Zay : ie the sceptics of the guardians.

[10:08:23] @ Zay : (will get to them after this I suppose Razz)

[10:09:22] @ Zay : so I guess over time they would have upheld their own tradition and grown more apart from the others but fiercely wanted to maintain their religious identity

[10:09:34] @ Zay : kind of like the TBB cultists really

[10:09:46] @ Zay : (who ALSO need their hey-day!)

[10:10:15] @ Eldarwen : lol yes, i think we have to go through them all

[10:10:23] @ Zay : yes x)

[10:10:38] @ Zay : honestly, these little niche religions are great extra-points for any characters Razz

[10:10:40] @ Eldarwen : reaction to the rise of dragon elitism sounds good though

[10:10:48] @ Zay : they don't have to define characters, but it'd be fabulous to see their inclusion

[10:10:50] @ Eldarwen : i particularly like that for the TBB cultists

[10:10:54] @ Zay : they'd make for some excellent twists too

[10:10:55] @ Eldarwen : good vs evil - so to speak

[10:11:01] @ Zay : yes, they have a special place in my heart too

[10:11:15] @ Eldarwen : and then branching off from there that some others thought healers were the cake and then the amellians who are just nuts

[10:11:24] @ Zay : I don't think any of the cults/niche religions are inherantly evil, but as always, some take it too far

[10:11:35] @ Eldarwen : hmm extremists and such

[10:11:41] @ Zay : and often to protect their marginalised religion, they either become seen as more extreme or actually do become that way

[10:11:46] @ Eldarwen : and no, i don't take them as evil, just as an example, gd vs tbb

[10:12:01] @ Zay : yeah exactly

[10:12:19] @ Zay : you could compare those two to christians and luciferians Razz

[10:12:44] @ Eldarwen : hehe

[10:12:48] @ Zay : and on both sides there's "positive" and "extreme" viewpoints

[10:13:03] @ Eldarwen : yeah just like with everything really

[10:13:12] @ Zay : pretty much

[10:13:28] @ Eldarwen : so the dragon elitists basically arose after the birth of the GDs and "yay they are so awesome!!"

[10:13:42] @ Zay : I like the idea that the amellians aren't just random haters but rather people going

[10:13:43] @ Eldarwen : then TBB elitists say "fuck you, tbbs were around before gds, they are the best!"

[10:13:45] @ Zay : "Hang on a moment"

[10:14:02] @ Zay : and questioning the GD ideal, like TBB cultists/healer triad people

[10:14:08] @ Zay : yes XD exactly

[10:14:11] @ Eldarwen : mmhh indeed

[10:14:34] @ Eldarwen : the healer triad coud then say "you're both wrong! healers are best, because they can HEAL! what can your dragons do?"

[10:14:47] @ Eldarwen : (well not just heal but.. you get the idea hehe)

[10:15:07] @ Zay : yes, healer triads are probably the closest thing you'll find to what they'd call "true pacifists"

[10:15:16] @ Eldarwen : if you take a tear who is rumoured (by those nuts) to be able to fertilise earth and tbbs can only scorch it... well.. they kinda have a point

[10:15:28] @ Zay : TBB cultists will probably call themselves the oldest/most true/most accurate of those

[10:15:34] @ Eldarwen : haha yes, pacifists who would shred a lifeblood to bits just to get a piece of them Wink

[10:15:38] @ Zay : and they'll value power/tradition/old ways

[10:15:42] @ Eldarwen : mmhh exactly

[10:15:50] @ Eldarwen : (i like where this is going)

[10:15:58] @ Zay : (same! This is fun)

[10:16:15] @ Zay : yes well, pacifists with an edge XD

[10:16:26] ElizaFlame13 : ^^;

[10:16:28] @ Zay : the GD worshipers, I like to think of as the closest thing to a moderate view

[10:16:51] @ Zay : that's a very common religion to hold, and they have no reason to believe their GDs aren't basically gods lol

[10:17:06] @ Zay : given how "lovely wuvly" everything goes, and that the GDs are seemingly immortal

[10:18:39] @ Zay : I think amellians basically promote dragons over humans though, for the fact it took the arch mage to "settle the island" /he/ created guardian dragons, and it's only because of him the island was tamed

[10:18:50] @ Zay : not because of dragons

[10:19:39] @ Zay : Amellians are like "woah, no, proper credit to the man who /made/ them. Guardians are only as good as their maker. A human, and are we not all human?"

[10:20:17] @ Eldarwen : mmhh!

[10:20:33] @ Zay : so I guess you could say an amellian view can be just a viewpoint, but it can /also/ then turn into a religious one with the inclusion of spirits/etc

[10:20:49] @ Eldarwen : sounds good yes

[10:20:59] @ Eldarwen : and like all the others, it can turn very extreme or just fairly marginal

[10:21:07] @ Zay : yes

[10:21:21] @ Zay : Like, I wouldn't be surprised if you found a fair lump of DDCers with amellian elements to their thinking

[10:21:41] @ Eldarwen : indeed

[10:21:47] @ Zay : but that wouldn't make them amellian religious, which is where the view then starts adopting ideas of what defines their god

[10:21:57] @ Eldarwen : and the tribe is basically the ones thinking a bit more strongely, or really extreme

[10:21:59] @ Zay : if that makes sense?

[10:22:05] @ Eldarwen : it does, yes

[10:22:05] @ Zay : yeah basically